Saturday, June 25, 2011

The Bible teaches that works will follow a saving faith and that the works contribute nothing to salvation. - Or Does it?

Mike,
 
I am glad to hear you firmly believe that salvation is a free gift, received by trusting in Jesus Christ for salvation, forgiveness and life that is eternal.
However, I still can not accept the teaching  "that works will follow a saving faith".
 
What works exactly would "follow" a person who had trusted in Jesus Christ to be his Savior?
 
And what "sins" would be an indication of that a person did not have "saving faith"?
 
How "good" or how "changed" does a person have to be to "know" they are saved?
Or for other believers to be able to "judge" if that person "really" believed ( trusted ) in Christ for salvation?
 
If I trust in Jesus Christ as my Savior, and commit a "grievous" sin, does this mean I never really believed?
 
Perhaps because you've lived a "Christian" life so well, you assume that others who truly believed must do like wise. That is not what I see in scripture. The Bible is FULL of "saved" believers who stumbled and sinned. Paul's two letters to the Corinthians ( whom he had lived with and taught ) is full of warnings to these "saints" about their less than holy living ( fornication, disputes amount themselves, drunkeness at the Lord's Supper, etc ), yet he continually appeals to them as brethren and his children.
Remember King David ( adultery and murder ), and Peter who first denied Christ, and later separated himself from the Gentiles ( Galatians chapter 2 ) and needed to be rebuke by Paul for his hypocrisy? And there are many more examples.
 
Just because some one has / is trusting in the Lord for salvation, it does not mean they are going to be a light or bear fruit.. that is the desired result. It is not the norm or even common. The parable of the sower is often interpreted to mean only 1 of the 4 is saved. I would say, that Christ was pointing out that only a few will bear fruit. Many "believe", but few "follow". To "follow" means to be a disciple. To be a disciple means to put yourself last, and everything, everyone else ( the Lord's work ) first. It is something we will receive blessings for in this life, and rewards for in the future ( 2 Timothy 2:11-13), but not all will receive rewards ( I Cor. 3:10-15 ), because they did not build on the foundation ( Not serving the Lord after trusting in Him for the forgiveness of their sins ).
The Book of James is written to Believers. James is not questioning the salvation of the saints he is writing to. He is warning them that you can't just going around saying "I'm a Christian" and but act just like the world, and not expect some type of judgment from God ( same type of warnings Paul makes to the disobedient believers in Corinth ). Abraham proved he trusted God in all things, and was willing to kill his son to prove it, and this is why he is called the friend of God. This is "faith" in the Love, and Power of God. James does not contradict what Paul stated in Ephesians 2:8,9 or Romans 4:4,5 or 6:23. Nor is James adding to the clear teaching John writes in his Gospel ( using the word believe 33 times, and stating the purpose of the writing was that you might Believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. John 20:31 ).
 
1st John on the other hand is not written to the world, but to the church, to believers, to the saints, and his warnings are about not be so foolish as to think one can "ABIDE... remain in a close and settle union" with God, and love the world, hate your brother, etc. and say you "Know" God ( the word used in the Greek means to "know by experience" ). It's all about our "fellowship" with our heavenly Father and our fellow brethren after we have been born again.
 
The gospel John includes references to those who "believe" but were hiding it ( John 12:42,19:38 ). Which to me is another "proof" that believing in Christ does not allows "show", and therefore not a true teaching ( that works "follow" some one who has believed ).
 
And my biggest concern is that if one starts teaching "works" must follow "true" believing, then some will also think that the false gospel of "Lordship Salvation" is okay too ( the teaching that one must commit to follow Christ and become a Disciple in order that one receives the "gift" of eternal life ).
 
*** That is my short answer. What follows is the long answer written by some one else with whom I agree, and who's material I have used in the past ( no need to re-invent the wheel ) to help explain my Biblical point of view on various doctrines.
 
**********************************************
 
"Saved by Faith", or "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved", but what does that really mean?
And if I trust Him as my Savior, will my life automatically "show" I have been born again, and now possess eternal life?

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HEAD AND HEART BELIEF?

You may have heard the phrase, "easy believism." In essence, they are saying that faith holds some merit because they are saying that the way you believe is the determining point in your salvation rather than the object of your faith, which is Jesus Christ. Of course, there is a difference between believing facts about Jesus Christ (such as His virgin birth and His resurrection) and believing in Him to be your Savior. But the difference is in what you believe, not how you believe.

Let me illustrate. Suppose a good friend of yours were to promise to give you five dollars tomorrow. Who or what gives you the money, your friend, or your faith in your friend? Christ promises to save all those who believe in Him. It is not a person's faith that saves him, but the object of his faith, Jesus Christ.

Some people even go so far as to make a distinction between believing in one's head and believing in one's heart. The basis of this teaching is the assumption that the word "believe" means more than intellectual assent. However, the Greek word translated "believe" is "pisteuo," and it literally means "to believe, trust, or rely upon," nothing more.

But doesn't the Bible teach that a person must believe in his heart? Yes, but what exactly is the heart? Does this mean that a person must believe with his emotions, intellect and will?

The primary meaning of the word "heart" is "mind." It is interesting to note that the Greek word for "bowels" is synonymous with our word "heart" and the Greek word for "heart" is synonymous with our word "mind." According to Greek scholars, "bowels" referred to one's feelings and affections. Good Scriptural examples of this are found in First John 3:17 and Matthew 9:36. The same Greek word is translated "bowels of compassion" in the former verse and "compassion" in the latter.

When Christ referred to the heart, He was primarily referring to the thinking and reasoning faculties of man. Examples of this are found in Matthew 9:4 and Luke 5:22:

"And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think you evil in your hearts?" (Matthew 9:4);

"But when Jesus perceived their thoughts He answering said unto them, What reason you in your hearts?" (Luke 5:22)

It is also interesting to note that while Romans 10:9,10 talk about believing with your heart, in verse six of the same chapter it says, "Say not in your heart..." This phrase was a Hebraism for "think not." So speaking in your heart and believing in your heart both refer to a mental process.

Those who teach that it is not enough to give intellectual assent are saying by their own definition that Abraham and all those who follow his example of faith are not saved! What exactly do I mean?

In Romans 4:21-24, it explains, "And being fully persuaded that what He had promised, He was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his" (Abraham's) "sake alone, that it was imputed to him; but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on Him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead."

Scripture's own definition of faith is "being fully persuaded that what He had promised, He was able also to perform" (Romans 4:21). Thus, faith is simply taking God at His word.

Christ made this clear in John 5:46 and 47, when He said, "For had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe My words?" If these unbelievers had taken Moses at his word, since he prophesied of Christ, they would have taken Christ at His word.

MUST CHRIST BE ONE'S LORD TO BE ONE'S SAVIOR?

Now some teach that the faith which saves a person must include a commitment of that person's life. These individuals use the phrase, "receive Christ as Savior and Lord." In other words, they are saying if you want Christ as your Savior, you must be willing to make Him the Lord and Master of your life.

This, however, is not in accordance with Scripture concerning what a person must do to have eternal life. We don't give Christ control of our lives or anything else. He gives us eternal life as a free gift, by just trusting in Him. When you start talking about making Christ the Lord of your life, you are then talking about service, not salvation!

If giving your life to God were a condition to receive eternal life, the Apostle Paul would not have pleaded with Christians to do just that. In Roman 12:1, he said, "I beseech you therefore brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." If Paul considered a commitment of one's life a separate and subsequent decision apart from salvation, shouldn't we also? He placed a commitment under the category of service to God, not salvation.

There is a vast difference between believing in Jesus Christ and serving Him. Believing in Christ results in one's becoming a child of God, while serving the Lord results in one's becoming a disciple. Salvation is the result of Christ's work on the cross, received by faith. Nothing in the life of the believer adds to or takes away from his perfect security; salvation cannot be lost. But discipleship comes only through a life of dedicated service to the Lord and can be lost because it is based upon the believer's faithfulness. Salvation secures a place in heaven, while discipleship secures rewards in heaven. Before embarking upon a life of service for the Lord, Christ cautions to count the cost (Luke 14:26-33). How different is the offer of salvation in which the Lord beckons, "Whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely" (Revelation 22:17).

In John chapter 8, it clearly shows the distinction between believing in Christ as Savior and becoming a disciple. It records how that in response to Christ's teaching, many became believers. Jesus addressed those who believed in Him and explained that to become His disciple it was required that they continue in His word. It says in John 8:30-32, "As He spake these words, many believed on Him. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on Him, If you continue in My word, then are you My disciples indeed: and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." Thus, all believers are not disciples - only those who commit their lives to Him.

Surrendering or yielding your life to the Lord is certainly something of yourself. If you thought you had to give Christ control of your life in order to be saved, you would be depending upon your giving of yourself to Him plus your trusting Him to get you to heaven. This is a mixture of God's grace and your works. A requirement for being God's obedient child is to allow Christ to control your life. To take a requirement for obedience and make it a requirement for salvation is nothing less than teaching good works for salvation.


BUT IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE, WON'T YOU SHOW IT?

Some people say that if you really believe in something, then your life will show it, meaning of course, that if you truly believe in Christ, then you will follow Him. But is it really true that if you truly believe in something, your life will evidence that belief? Don't you know a lot of people who believe, who truly believe, they must be good to go to heaven, but who aren't being good themselves?

Besides, when you trust Christ to save you, what you're believing is that He's the One getting you to heaven. You're not trusting Him with your life here on earth. Trusting Him with your life here is a separate decision from trusting Him with your eternal destiny. Salvation is reliance on His work alone. Trusting Him to live through you is a decision which is to be made after you're saved. And if you do have faith or trust in Him in this regard, then your life will show it because believing in Christ to live through you requires work, faith AND work.


DOESN'T A PERSON'S LIFE AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE?

Many use Second Corinthians 5:17 to prove that a person's life will automatically change after he trusts Christ. This verse says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:" (literally, `there is a new creation') "old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

Please note that it doesn't mention anything about a gradual change but dogmatically states that "all things are become new." It is not speaking of a transformation, but of a new creation, the bringing in of a new thing, not the change of the old. Furthermore, for everyone who is in the new creation, the old has passed away - there can be no return to it.

Also, the very next verse says, "And all things are of God Who has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ." So when he speaks of being a "new creature," he isn't speaking about the condition of a believer's life, but rather of his new position.

Every man is part of the old creation by physical birth. Scripture describes every unbeliever as spiritually dead (Ephesians 2:1). Upon believing the Gospel, an individual is born into God's family and thus becomes part of the new creation.

By very nature the things that do constitute "all things" referred to in this passage are of necessity the work of God. What person could take himself out of the power of darkness and place himself into the kingdom of the Son (Colossians 1:13)? Who could make himself a citizen of heaven (Philippians 3:20)? Who could produce the new birth (John 1:13) and place within himself the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:12,13)?

Another proof that Second Corinthians 5:17 isn't speaking of a changed life is the phrase "in Christ." Second Corinthians 5:21 says, "For He has made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him." In other words, the way to have eternal life is not found in what we do ourselves, which amounts to self-righteousness, but rather in having a perfect righteousness given to us when we trust Christ as our Savior. Now when God looks at me as far as salvation goes, He no longer sees me in my fallen condition, but rather, He sees what Christ did for me (placed me in a new position); so from that viewpoint, all things are become new.

The fact that this verse is ever used to show a person's life changes is ironic because it just so happens that it was written to the worst group of believers addressed in the New Testament. Just to mention a few of the things they were guilty of, one of them was committing incest and the rest were condoning it (First Corinthians 5:1-5); some were getting drunk at the Lord's Supper (First Corinthians 11:20-32); there was division and strife among them (First Corinthians 3:3,4); and they were falling for false teachers (Second Corinthians 11:4). So this clearly shows that this verse couldn't possibly be referring to a person's life changing.

In contrast with the teachings of the changed life, the Bible teaches that for those who decide to serve the Lord, the battle has just begun. The old nature is in rebellion against God's will and doesn't want to submit to Him (Romans 8:7); it is in warfare against the new nature (Galatians 5:16). The believer though, who consistently yields to his new nature is promised that the Holy Spirit will produce these characteristics in his life: "Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith" (literally, `faithfulness'), "meekness, temperance" (Galatians 5:22,23).

Just as there are laws in the physical universe, there are also spiritual laws, one namely, "Whatever a man sows, that shall he also reap" (Galatians 6:7). A believer has the choice of yielding to his old nature and reaping God's chastening (Hebrews 12:6), or yielding to his new nature and reaping God's blessings (James 1:25).

The people who preach that your life changes when you believe are in essence saying that the Holy Spirit automatically takes control without your having to yield to Him. If that were the case, then why are believers commanded to be controlled by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 5:18)? And why does the Bible make a distinction between a carnal and a spiritual believer?

The Apostle Paul, when addressing the Corinthians who had been believers for about five years, wrote, "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ... For you are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are you not carnal?" This is found in First Corinthians 3:1-3. Paul looked at these believers' lives and saw the results of their being controlled by the old nature (envy, strife, division). He didn't ask them to question their salvation, nor did he question their salvation (he still called them brothers), but rather told them they were carnal believers. He didn't tell them that a Christian couldn't do those things, for he knew only too well that when a person becomes a Christian, his old nature isn't eradicated or in any way changed.

In Romans 7:19, Paul told of the battle he found true in his own life when he attempted to live the Christian life in his own strength. "For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do." Think of it, one of the greatest believers of all time was fighting to do the right things that he himself didn't want to do and he was fighting not to do wrong things that he wanted to do.

What the Apostle Paul did tell these believers though, is that there are godly incentives to live a godly life. One of these is found in First Corinthians 3:8, "... every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour." This is the same encouragement Christ gave to His children when He told them, "... lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven" (Matthew 6:20).

Let's look at the passage where Paul describes the judgment for a Christian's works. "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw: every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he has built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire" (First Corinthians 3:11-15).

Paul compares the believer's life to a building which is being erected on the foundation of Jesus Christ, Himself. Only those works done for Christ, which are compared to gold, silver, and precious stones, will be rewarded. Works not done for Christ amount to wood, hay and straw and will result in a loss of rewards for the believer. This passage says very clearly that after some people became believers, they did absolutely nothing for the Lord. They are just as much saved as the ones who did something for Christ; the difference however will be in the rewards they receive.


HOW DOES A PERSON EXPERIENCE A CHANGED LIFE?

God's will for all His children is that they experience a changed life. Jesus explained how this was possible. It says in John 8:31,32, "Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on Him, If you continue in My Word, then are you My disciples indeed; and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." The Lord was speaking of making them free from being slaves to sin, which is referred to in verse 34.

Everyone is born with a fallen human nature inherited from our foreparent Adam (Romans 5:12,19). When a person is born into God's family, he receives a new nature, which is the Holy Spirit, Himself, indwelling that person (First Corinthians 6:19,20).

Just as the old nature is the source of our sinful inclinations, now any source of righteousness will spring from the Holy Spirit. At any given moment, the believer is either controlled by his old or new nature. The believer determines which by yielding to one or the other.

Romans 6:13,16 state, "Neither yield your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God ... Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey." If you are habitually yielding to your old nature, you are a slave to that nature and are termed a carnal believer. However, if you are habitually yielding to your new nature, you are God's servant and are called a spiritual believer.

And what exactly does it mean to yield? If you were to tell your son to mow the lawn and he were to reply, "Dad, I'm yielding to you right now; I have the proper mental attitude," however, he doesn't mow the lawn, is he yielded? Of course not. Christ commanded all believers, "Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15). You aren't yielding until you are obeying that command.

CAN A CHRISTIAN BE IDENTIFIED BY HIS WORKS?

There is a major distinction drawn in the Word of God between what a person has to do to become a child of God and what a person has to do to be an obedient child of God.

One is attained through faith in what Jesus Christ already accomplished 2,000 years ago and the other is attained through faith in what Jesus Christ is doing currently, coupled with works performed by the believer. Failure to separate the two has resulted in needless confusion and a message that will not save a person from going to hell.

One becomes a child of God by faith and one becomes a disciple, or an obedient believer, by faith and works. The way I can know a person is a believer is by his words, not his works; but the way I know a person is a disciple is by his works, not his words. And those who think that you can tell whether a person is a Christian or not by his life often quote the Scripture, "You shall know them by their fruits."

But of whom was Christ speaking when He said, "You shall know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:16)? Verse 15 explains, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them" (false prophets) "by their fruits."

Christ was telling them how to determine whether a person was a false prophet or not. Please note that you wouldn't be able to tell they were wolves by looking at them; they were disguised as sheep. Let's read on.

"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them" (Matthew 7:18-20).

We can know that these fruits cannot be good works because, continuing in Matthew, Christ said, "Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your Name? And in Your Name have cast out devils? And in Your Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them I never knew you: depart from Me, you who WORK iniquity" (Matthew 7:22,23). Christ was foretelling of a day in which many erroneously will think they will be spending eternity with Him on the basis of their works. So obviously the fruit is not good works. Christ said, in verse 21, "Not everyone who says unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven."

And what is God's will for the unbeliever? Jesus said, "And this is the will of Him Who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son, and believes on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:40). So the reason these people were told to depart is because they thought they were going to spend eternity with God because of what they did; they had never believed on the Son for eternal life.

So how can we identify a false prophet? What exactly is the fruit? Christ, Himself, explained, in Matthew 12:33-37, "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. O generation of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart brings forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned."

Thus I can determine whether a person is a false prophet by his message, not his deeds. In fact, if the way a person lived determined whether he were a Christian or not, then the religious leaders who rejected Christ would be considered Christians.

Christ Himself said of the scribes and Pharisees, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appears righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity" (Matthew 23:27,28).

Thus, I repeat, the way I know a person is a Christian is by his words. If a person tells me that he thinks he has to be good to go to heaven, then I know by his words that he is not depending on Jesus Christ to get him there. And the way I can identify a disciple is by his works.

ISN'T THE CHRISTIAN LIFE A WALK OF FAITH?

Trusting Christ as Savior is a one-time act in which you are trusting Him with your eternal destiny. It can never be repeated. Just as you were once physically born into this world, a person is once spiritually born into God's family when he trusts Christ as his Savior. This is what Scripture defines as being "born again" (John 1:12,13; 3:3).

Now as a child of God, you are told to walk by faith (Colossians 2:6). And walking by faith is simply trusting Jesus Christ to live His life through you day by day. As Galatians 2:20 states, "I am" (literally, `I have been') "crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself for me."

And how do I know if I am walking by faith? Simple. Faith in the Christian life will always be accompanied by works. James 2:18 explains, "Yea, a man may say, You have faith, and I have works: show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works."

When you talk about walking by faith and say that this walk is other than a life of good works, then you are the individual to whom the phrase "faith without works is dead" is addressed.

A parallel can be drawn with Christ's words when He said, "If a man loves Me, he will keep My words ... He that loves Me not does not keep My sayings" (John 14:23,24).

Thus Jesus Christ, Himself, said the criterion for knowing whether a man loves Him or not is his works, not his words. A person can talk about how much he loves Him, yet if he isn't keeping His commandments, does He love Christ? So if a man were to say he has faith, yet he doesn't have works, does he have faith? No, because faith without works is dead.

But can a person have faith in Christ to save him and not have faith in his Christian life?
Yes, because faith in the Christian life produces works, which result in rewards, but we have already read where some believers will have no rewards in heaven. First Corinthians 3:15 says, "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." This verse clearly teaches that there will be believers in heaven with no rewards. And again, the only way that could happen is if a person did no work for Christ. First Corinthians 3:8 says, "... every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour." Thus these particular people did have faith in Christ to save them, but they never had faith in their Christian life. They were saved by faith, but they never walked by faith.

And what works are involved in this walk of faith? The four basic ones are:

1) Sharing the Gospel (Matthew 4:19, 2 Corinthians 5:20 )
2) Studying the Bible (2 Timothy 2:15, 1 Peter 2:2 )
3) Praying (1 Thessalonians 5:17);
4) Meeting with other believers (Hebrews 10:25).

Every person who trusts Christ as his Savior is born into God's family a spiritual baby. God's will for His children is that they grow to be spiritually mature Christians. Just as you must eat properly and exercise to be physically fit, so in order to be spiritually fit, you must study the Bible (which is likened unto food) and put into practice the things you learn from the Bible (which is exercising spiritually).

One of the distinguishing characteristics separating spiritual babes from the spiritually mature is Bible knowledge. A lack of knowledge on the part of believers is responsible for much confusion concerning doctrine. Instead of comparing Scripture with Scripture, they begin comparing teacher with teacher and by so doing, leave themselves open for every kind of false teaching. The Apostle Paul admonished concerning this very thing when he said, "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" (Ephesians 4:14).

And when it comes to the doctrine of salvation, the Scriptures teach that faith and works can't be mixed. It says in Romans 11:6, "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace."

But some might object saying, "Doesn't James chapter 2 teach that faith without works is dead?"
Yes, but this has absolutely nothing to do with salvation; it has to do with discipleship.

James 2 is probably one of the most misused and misunderstood chapters in the Bible. It is used by some people to teach that faith in Christ alone will not save you. Others teach that if your life doesn't change when you trust Christ, it is evidence that you really didn't believe, (which is like putting salvation on the level of a small pox vaccination that perhaps won't take). Both of these ideas have led to a warped view of the Scriptures.

As for people who use this passage to support the idea that faith alone won't save a person, let me explain. Heaven is either a gift or a reward; either it is determined by what we do or we have absolutely no part in it. Romans 4:5 states, "But to him that does not work, but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." As previously quoted, the Apostle Paul said, "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace." That's like saying, "If heaven is a gift, then it is not a reward: otherwise a gift is not a gift." And for a person to say that faith without works is dead with reference to salvation is for him to say a free gift is a reward, which it can't be.

WHY DOES JAMES SAY, "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD?"

The epistle of James was written to a group of people who were already children of God. James addressed them as brethren. In James 1:22,25, he went on to say to them, "But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves ... But whoso looks into the perfect law of liberty, and continues therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed" (not saved) "in his deed."

Good works don't have any part in making you a child of God, but they certainly determine whether you are an obedient child of God or not. Obedience results in God's blessings in a person's life, whereas, disobedience results in God's chastening. It is not the person who knows God's will that God is going to bless, but rather the one who does His will.

The believers whom James was addressing were guilty of showing favoritism to the rich people who came to their assembly. They claimed to be loving their neighbors as themselves, but in actuality they were hypocrites. They were treating people differently because they didn't have money or dress well (James 2:1-11). So James admonishes them, "So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged" (literally, `as they who are about to be judged') "by the law of liberty ... What does is profit, my brethren, though a man says he has faith, and has not works? Can faith save him?" (James 2:12,14).

The Greek construction of the question, "can faith save Him?" requires a negative answer; therefore, the reply is, "no, faith alone cannot save him."

Now according to Ephesians 2:8,9, in order to be saved, a person must have faith and no works; yet according to James 2:14, a person can't be saved without works. Some people have tried to explain this away by saying that the faith that saves produces works; however, James didn't say faith produces works; he said faith alone can't save.

JAMES WAS WARNING OF IMPENDING DISCIPLINE

The problem is quickly solved when you realize that the word "saved" isn't always used in reference to salvation from hell. In James 5:15 he uses it in reference to being saved from physical death, and in James 2:14 he uses it in reference to being saved from God's discipline.

James was warning of impending discipline the Lord was going to bring into these Christians' lives. It is not the believer who talks the good talk who avoids God's discipline; it is the believer who lives the good life.

These believers talked about love but were not practicing it. James 2:15-17 explain, "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, and one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be warmed and filled; notwithstanding you give them not those things which are needful to the body; what does it profit? Even so faith, it if has not works, is dead, being alone."

Words alone could not supply the needy believers with food and clothing. Telling someone who is cold and hungry to be warmed and filled is to do absolutely nothing for that person. To be of profit, those words must be accompanied by works. They were to supply food and clothing for those in need, not just talk, because, "faith, if it has not works, is dead, being alone."

These believers apparently claimed to have faith, but without works, that sort of faith could not save them from God's judgment in their lives. That's why James said, "So speak, and so DO, as they that shall be judged" (literally, `are about to be judged') "by the law of liberty" (James 2:12).

Now since James was addressing believers, he was not talking about their receiving judgment in hell. For the believer there is no such thing as coming into judgment as far as one's eternal destiny is concerned. Christ said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he who hears My word, and believes on Him who sent Me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation;" (literally, `judgment') "but is passed from death unto life" (John 5:24).

James makes it abundantly clear that he is speaking of faith in the Christian life, and faith in the Christian life will always manifest itself in works. A parallel passage can be found in First John 3:17,18, "But whoso has this world's goods, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwells the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth." If I say I love fellow believers, yet when they are in need I don't help them out, then in truth, I don't love them.

BUT EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE AND THEY TREMBLE

Many times those who think that one must submit to the Lordship of Christ in order to be saved will support their view by the passage in James which says the demons believe and tremble.

James wrote, "You believe that there is one God; you do well: the demons also believe, and tremble. But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" (James 2:19,20).

People who use these verses to teach that it is not enough just to believe in Christ for salvation don't realize what they are saying.

First of all, there is a big difference between believing in Christ and believing that there is one God. Believing that there is one God is not going to save anyone - even the Jews who rejected Christ believed that.

Second, why would James use demons as an example of saving faith when there is no hope of demons being saved anyway. The Scriptures teach that since Christ didn't die for angels (Hebrews 2:16).

So James is not using the demons to prove that you have to do more than just believe in Christ to save you from hell. James was using satire to reprimand these disobedient believers. To paraphrase, he is saying, "Big deal if you believe in God, so do the demons. You can talk all you want about faith, but without works all your so-called faith is dead."

James continues by using Abraham as an example. Verse 21 states, "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac, his son, upon the altar?"

Now in Romans 4:3-5, Paul uses Abraham as an example of a man who was justified by faith alone, apart from any works. "For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that works is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him who does not work, but believes on Him Who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

It sounds like a contradiction between Paul and James, but in reality, they are speaking of two different events in Abraham's life. Paul, in the book of Romans, deals with the faith Abraham had which resulted in his salvation and James deals with the faith Abraham had which resulted in his friendship with the Lord. It was by faith alone that Abraham became a child of God, but it was by his faith and works that he became a friend of God. It is important to realize that there are more than thirty years between the two occurrences referred to by Paul and James.

Notice at what time in Abraham's life he was justified by works. James 2:21 says, "when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar." God had already promised Abraham that the Messiah was going to come through the line of his son Isaac. Isaac was unmarried at the time, and Abraham knew he would yet have to marry and have a child in order for God's promise to be fulfilled. When Abraham was commanded by the Lord to offer Isaac as a burnt offering, he knew God wouldn't break His promise and he trusted God to raise Isaac from the dead.

And where did I get that? Hebrews 11:17-19 explain, "By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall your seed be called: accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, from whence also he received him in a figure."

When God told Abraham to go and offer his son as a burnt offering, Abraham could have replied, "Now Lord, I know You've already promised to have the Messiah come through Isaac and I know You can raise him up from the dead, but there is no way I'm going to take his life." Abraham could talk all he wanted about faith but the proof that he really did have faith was his works. Without the works, there is no faith. However, Abraham truly did have faith that the Lord would do what He promised as was proven by his obedience and Abraham "was called the friend of God" (James 2:23).

Once a person is a child of God, he is always God's child regardless of what he does (John 6:37). However, a person is not God's friend unless he is doing the things God commands. Jesus Christ said, "You are My friends, if you do whatever I command you" (John 15:14).

Being God's friend is synonymous with what the Bible terms "fellowship." The word "fellowship" means "partnership" and conveys the idea of having things in common with another individual. Thus, a believer who claims to be having fellowship with the Lord and is living a life of sin obviously is not having fellowship. He will come under the chastening hand of God, but nonetheless, he is still on his way to heaven.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST EPISTLE OF JOHN?

With this distinction in mind, some verses in the Epistle of First John touching on the same subject become clear. The First Epistle of John was written combating a false teaching called "Gnosticism." The "Gnostics," as they were called, were a group of people who claimed to have a special relationship with the Lord and yet they believed it didn't matter how a person lived. The word "Gnostic" comes from the Greek word "gnosis" which means "to know by experience." Nine times the Apostle John presents tests for knowing whether a person is in fellowship and he uses the verb "ginosko" from which the Gnostics got their name. John made it abundantly clear that the way a person lives has everything to do with knowing the Lord as a Friend.

Now the word "ginosko" is not to be confused with another word also translated "to know" in First John and that is the word "oida." The word "oida" is not speaking of an experiential knowledge, but rather of knowing something as a fact. For instance, First John 5:13 explains that those who believe in Christ can know as a fact that they have eternal life. To further illustrate, think of the relationship between a father and a son. The son knows as a fact that he is his father's son, but if asked if he were his father's friend, his answer would be based on his past and present experiences with him.

With this distinction in mind, let's look at First John 2:4 where the word "ginosko" (meaning, "know by experience") is used. "He who says, I know Him and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in Him." Thus, he is not speaking here of knowing Christ as Savior but rather of knowing Him as Friend. And he makes it clear that knowing Christ as a Friend is based on the way a person lives.

Another word which is helpful to know in distinguishing between salvation and fellowship is the word "abide," which is the Greek word "meno." It literally means, "to abide, to remain in a close and settled union." It is used often of persons abiding in a home and implies friendship and communion.

With this understanding, let's look at First John 2:6, "He who says he abides in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked." So again, John is saying that knowing the Lord as Friend, abiding in Him, has to do with the way we live.

Sadly enough, what was intended by the Apostle John to let a person know if he were in fellowship with the Lord or not has been misused by some as being the proof of one's salvation. This has resulted in needless despair for many and in false assurance for others. We are not to determine whether we're saved by the experiences in our lives; we're to base it upon the never changing Word of God. Christ said, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).

IN CONCLUSION

Paul wrote that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation for every person who believes it (Romans 1:16). Picture, if you will, a circle representing the Gospel. Anything outside of the circle comes under the category of human effort. The further the person is from the circle, the clearer he sees the issue - God's grace versus his works. The closer he gets to the truth, however, the harder it is to see. How much better to be far away and realize how lost you are. About ninety-nine percent of these people, when asked if they think they're going to heaven, reply "I hope so," because they believe heaven is determined by the way they live their lives.

The Name "Jesus" means "God our Savior." If you place your faith in Him alone you can know as a fact you possess eternal life. You can have Scriptural assurance of your salvation!

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the Name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life." (First John 5:13)

 
 
 

Wednesday, June 1, 2011

What is Saving Faith?

Most of the world holds the misconception that "salvation" or "eternal life" is something that one must earn or be worthy of.
Christianity ( as understood by most who call themselves Christians ) teaches that we are not capable of "saving ourselves" or "earning" eternal life, and hold that one is "saved" by grace ( unmerited favor ) through faith ( believe, trust, reply upon ) in the Lord Jesus Christ. This salvation or eternal life is a Gift ( Ephesians 2:8, 9; John 4:10; Rev 22:17 ) and not based on works or merit or committing one's life.

However, the definition of "faith" or what it means to "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved" ( Acts 16:31 ) is a much more complex issue.

Without getting into all the "variations", I'd like to discuss the more narrow topic of:

Does one need to "make" Jesus Lord of their life "to be saved"?
Which would mean not only relying upon Him to be one's savior, but that one promises, or commits to a change in behavior and future actions.
And therefore would live and act differently afterward ( as a clear sign they had "saving faith" in the first place ).
OR
Is "saving faith" a matter of trusting or replying upon who Jesus Christ is ( the Son of God ) and what He did ( suffered and died and rose again ) for each one as a payment for their sins. And understanding that no person is "worthy" due to our sin, and that "whosoever" believes in Him will have ( has ) everlasting life ( John 3:16, 5:24,6:47, etc ). And choosing to follow ( be a disciple ) of Christ is not a "requirement", or the same "faith" that one has when "receiving" Christ as one's savior ( source of eternal life and forgiveness ), but is a separate "act" that one would make after "counting the cost".

Whole books have been written on this subject, so I will do my best to keep this short and to the point.

* I think my point, that trusting in Christ as one's savior, is not the same thing as trusting in Christ as His disciple ( follower ) , or choosing to be His obedient child.

Choosing to follow Christ after one receives eternal life ( and becomes a child of God ), is something that requires a lot of work, and a continual day by day, and moment by moment "faith" for divine direction and the power to choose what is best for others and not always service one's selfish desires.

My personal experience involved me doing both at the same time, but clearly understanding that choosing to follow Christ, had no part in my receiving the Gift of Eternal Life ( and the forgiveness of my sins ... Acts 10:43 ). I trusted in the name of Jesus ( God is Salvation ) and was born again. No prayer, baptism, aisle walking, just simple trust in the clear teaching of the Word of God ( the power of salvation... Romans 1:16, 10:17 ).

But I also understood that this same God loved me and wanted me to have a relationship with Him ( John 17:3 ). And I became a learner and then I began teaching what I had learned from studying His word to others ( evangelizing, spreading the Word, making new disciples ).

But also, I learned that just because one is saved, this does not keep one from sinning. And I found that I had to choose each day to walk according to the Spirit and not the Flesh ( Eph. 5:13-18 ). I found following Christ required daily reading of the Word, and Prayer, and Fellowship with other disciples, and using what I had been given to share with others. And once I stopped doing these things, the desires of the flesh would become strong, and my actions would follow.
I walked well ( with minor stumbles ) for the first 3 1/2 years of my Christian life, and then I left my local church, and moved to another city. And although I attempted to keep up with my study, prayer, fellowship, and sharing, as time went by, I slowly did less of the "right things" and started doing the "wrong things". To make a long story short ( and to get to the point I want to make ), I must confess that for many years of my Christian life, I walked in the ways of the World. I did things that were exceedingly sinful, selfish, and dishonorable. I turned my back on God ( yet He remained faithful... II Tim. 2:13 )
My point being, just because a person has trusted in Christ ( and I surely did with my whole heart and mind at the age of 16 ), it does not mean you can tell by how they behave as to whether they are saved. A believer ( child of God ) is capable of being just as wicked as an unsaved person. Having the Holy Spirit does not prevent you from bad behavior ( I wish it did ).

Just to set the record straight, while still struggling with sin in my life, it is not "ruling" my life, as I yield myself daily to the Lord, study, praying more than ever, fellowshipping, and sharing with others. I liked to do more, and time has a way of getting used up with all the responsibilities of day to day life, but the effort to fight the good fight is worth it. Walking in the ways of the world brought much pain and heartache. And walking with the Lord brings hope, and peace that can not be found anywhere else. And eternal rewards ( I Cor. 3:10-15 and II Tim. 2:10-12 )

If you are not clear on whether "believing" is a simple trust in what Christ has done, or whether some type of "commitment" ( and automatic transformation in a persons life ) is involved to receive eternal life, I'd suggest getting a book on the subject by one of these author's.

My personal favorite's are those written by Zane C. Hodges

Other authors include L. S. Chafer, Harry Ironside, Lance Latham, J. Dwight Pentecost,Charles Ryrie, Miles J. Stanford, Warren W. Wiersbe,Charles Stanley, Tony Evans, Ernest Pickering, Curtis Hutson, Bruce Wilkinson, Erwin Lutzer and William Newell

I have heard and read "the other side" of this controversy. I've discussed it with many.
And the title of John MacArthur's book, "The Gospel According to Jesus: What Is Authentic Faith?", or the Revised version title,"What does Jesus mean when He says Follow Me, The Gospel According to Jesus", shows that this is a matter of taking "following" and "discilpeship" and ADDING them to the Gospel of Grace ( and NOT OF YOURSELF ). And I think the reason people don't want ( or have a hard time ) understanding your life / actions have NOTHING to do with receiving the GIFT ( not a gift, if Lordship is required ), is the same thing that makes some people cling to the idea that salvation / heaven is only obtained by leading a good life ( being Better than those "bad" sinners ). It's human Pride.
Children have no problem accepting a GIFT with "no strings" attached.
Adults tend to feel that "you don't get something for nothing" and they must be "worthy" of the gift.
It's this "mind set" that causes people to look at the Bible, and draw a different conclusion.
The "Gospel" is foolishness to most. They just can't understand how "bad" people can be saved. Or that "nothing" is required.
And the argument that a "saved" person's life will show it because they have the Holy Spirit inside, and therefore their life must change for the better, is short sighted.
If the Holy Spirit was the "force" for change, then EVERY CHRISTIAN would be A SAINT!
And there would be NO REASON for Paul ( and others ) to be CONSTANTLY Exhorting us to fight against the sin nature we still all have.
Just sit back and let the Holy Spirit transform your thoughts, heart, and actions.... He is God after all... who could resist..
See how this "logic" falls a part in light of reality ( not to mention scripture on the subject of "living for Christ".. it's hard work...).
It's sad that most "Christians" who think your life has to show your true saving faith, live lifes that are so far from the "sold out", 100% devotion that Jesus talks about, if one is to be a "follower" or "disciple". It makes me think of Jesus' words to the Lacodocian church.
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and have gotten riches, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art the wretched one and miserable and poor and blind and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold refined by fire, that thou mayest become rich; and white garments, that thou mayest clothe thyself, and that the shame of thy nakedness be not made manifest; and eyesalve to anoint thine eyes, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I reprove and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.(Revelation 3:15-19 ASV)

Definition of Faith, as revealed in Scripture:
He ( Abraham ) did not stagger at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strong in faith, giving glory to God, and being fully persuaded that what God had promised, He was also able to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for him alone that it was imputed to him, but for us also to whom it is to be imputed, to the ones believing on Him who has raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; who was delivered because of our offenses and was raised for our justification.
(Romans 4:20-25 MKJV)

And only later in life, when Abraham was willing to kill his own son at God's command, do we see that his obedience ( acting on his believe that God knows best, and that God had the power to raise Isaac from the dead ... as Isaac was promised to be the one through whom Abraham would be the father of many nations ), that we see his "actions" result in being called "the friend of God" ( James 2:23 ). Note, James is written to believers ( already saved, children of God ) and not written to explain how a person becomes born again. This passage in James 2 and a few others, are verses that entire books have been written about, and I will go into these "difficult" passages in future articles.
So, getting back to the clear message:
For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them.
(Ephesians 2:8-10 MKJV)
Note, verse 10 states that we "should", not that we necessarily "would" walk in good works. Good works are strongly "encouraged", but for blessings and rewards, and NEVER as a condition of receiving the GIFT of eternal life.
And it is a false assumption to think ( or teach ) that becoming a child of God ( by faith ) means you are automatically going to "bear good fruit". It is only those who "abide" in Christ, as they "fight the good fight" each day, that will be transformed "by the renewing" of their minds.
I beseech you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God.
(Romans 12:1-2 MKJV)

For additional information on this and related topics, I'd recommend this article,
Spiritual Assurance

Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Easter or Passover or Pagan Holiday or Does It Matter?



Youtube Video version = https://youtu.be/OPlW2eLoRQk

So, it's Spring again. And many people around the world will find time to celebrate, take a vacation, or plant some new flowers. It's the "celebration" part that I'd like to talk about here.

So how do we celebrate the Easter of death and sacrifice? With symbols that soften that harshness, like baby chicks, baby bunnies, and bright, happy colored eggs ( and let's not forget the chocolate! ). And while, Easter is about new life and all of these happy symbols can be made to represent that, is this how we should respond?

Does this effect our "witness" to the world as Christians? Or more specifically, what does the Bible say about this subject?

First, you will find NO VERSES in the Bible that talk about celebrating "Easter" ( note: Passover is mis-translated "easter" in KJV Acts 12:4 ). And if you look into history ( including the New Testament ) what you will find is the Apostles and early church celebrating Passover. And in history you find the first "debates" about the "holiday" surrounding the Resurrection Day about "which day" the church should be commemorating it. And slowly the "church" began shedding it's self from all things "Jewish" and the "appointed" feasts of the Lord were set a side, and replaced by holidays that coincided with "pagan" festivals.

This does just not seem right to me. How about you?

What is the big deal, you ask?

First, I want you to READ Leviticus chapter 23. Noting the wording and emphasis on "the appointed times of the LORD", and "perpetual statute throughout your generations".

Just for the Jews, you say?

The early church did not think so. And we can see the "parallels" of each of these "appointed times" in Christ's ministry ( plus we see Him observing the "appointed times" ).

The Passover is about the blood applied, resulting in salvation.

We see on the "day after the sabbath" ( i.e. Sunday, the first day of the week ) the waving of the sheath of the "first fruit", again pointing to Christ, and the day of His resurrection.

Then next "appointed" time is Pentecost ( 50 ) when the new grain offering occurs, and the Holy Spirit came upon of the disciples in the upper room.

The third "appointed" time is in the fall ( the 7th month ). This time is full of symbolism that can be also correlated with the return of Christ. And this is also one of the two "feast of the LORD" that are clearly to be celebrated in the Kingdom, after Christ returns ( The feast of Tabernacles is also called the feast of the ingathering, reference Exodus 23:16 ). See Ezekiel's vision that starts in chapter 40 and runs through 48 ( the end of Ezekiel ). Take note of chapter 45 and verses 18 - 25, as they reference the two feasts that are to be observed after the LORD restores Israel, and His Glory is here on earth ( see chapter 39, noting versus 21 and 22 ).

Okay.. Books have been written about the Feasts and how they "fore shadowed" the coming of the Christ, and many things can be learned by the study of the feasts.

The question remains, does it matter?

Should we, as Christians, be celebrating them?

And is there "harm" in "mixing" pagan festivals and symbols with our "ministry" to bring the Gospel to the world.

While most of this is "innocent" and "meaningless" to the average person, I believe the incorporation of non-Biblical "myths" and "symbols" dilutes the message of truth we are to be sharing with the world. It is a form of compromise. It is allowing a little "leaven" into the "loaf" and this is clearly warned about in many ways and many places in the Bible. See what Jesus taught in Matthew 16, and Paul's warning in I Cor. 5:6-8, and Gal. 5:9.

And those who would say, but can we not be "all things to all men", are abusing the principal Paul was trying to get across in Romans chapter 14. You don't become a "murder" so you can reach other "murders". You don't practice witchcraft to "reach" the wizards and warlocks of the world. You use the "light" of the Word to expose the things hidden in the darkness. With love, you must proclaim the truths of God, as revealed to us in His word, and confirmed in our hearts by the Holy Spirit. That others ( those who have not come to a trusting faith in Jesus Christ as their source of salvation, and as the Lord of the universe around them ), may "see" our LIGHT. And see an uniqueness about us. We are to be DIFFERENT, because we are DIFFERENT. We are children of the King, citizens of heaven, and ambassadors for Christ. We are to be Holy ( set a part ).

None of what I see taught in the Bible makes me feel right about Easter Bunnies, Santa Claus, or the Great Pumpkin. And I'd be careful before using the term "mother earth" or embracing the idea that we must "save" the planet ( be good stewards, yes ), because this planet is going to receive the wrath of God ( have you read Revelation lately ? ), and then He will restore and heal the land, when He returns to Rule and Reign from Jerusalem ( as mentioned in Revelation and most of the Old Testament prophets ).


*** More about "Easter" ***

The naming of the celebration as “Easter” seems to go back to the name of a pre-Christian goddess in England, Eostre, who was celebrated at beginning of spring. The only reference to this goddess comes from the writings of the Venerable Bede, a British monk who lived in the late seventh and early eighth century. As religious studies scholar Bruce Forbes summarizes:

“Bede wrote that the month in which English Christians were celebrating the resurrection of Jesus had been called Eosturmonath in Old English, referring to a goddess named Eostre. And even though Christians had begun affirming the Christian meaning of the celebration, they continued to use the name of the goddess to designate the season.”

Bede was so influential for later Christians that the name stuck, and hence Easter remains the name by which the English, Germans and Americans refer to the festival of Jesus’ resurrection.

Let me just leave you with some reference links. I might not agree 100% with these other resources, but the information provide should help provide a deeper understanding of this issue.

SEE:

  Why Easter is called Easter, and other little-known facts about the holiday

https://theconversation.com/why-easter-is-called-easter-and-other-little-known-facts-about-the-holiday-75025

How the pagans ARE practicing Easter today,

http://www.ehow.com/how_2124313_hold-pagan-spring-equinox-ritual.html

And the "date" of Easter ( a whole other topic for future discussion ),

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2011/04/12/easter-date-pagan

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism

Sunday, January 23, 2011

Church equals Body of Believers ( BOB )

Church is a term that means different things to different people. By strict definition ( from original Greek word ), it refers to a group of people, assembly, congregation, or those "called out" to engage in discussion.
As the "called", and "chosen" members of the Body of Christ ( also referred to as the Church ... composed of those who "believe" and therefore "placed into the Body of Christ" ), we are to encourage and build up one another.
Here are several scriptures that relate to the meaning, purpose, and activities of "the Church".

to the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called out with all those in every place who call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.
(1 Corinthians 1:2 MKJV)

For as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. For also by one Spirit we are all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free, even all were made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If all the body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If all hearing, where would be the smelling? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body as it has pleased Him. And if they were all one member, where would be the body? But now indeed many are the members, yet only one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you; nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. But much rather the members of the body seeming to be weaker are necessary. And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we put more abundant honor around them. And our unpresentable members have more abundant propriety. For our presentable members have no need, but God tempered the body together, giving more abundant honor to the member having need; that there not be division in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is glorified, all the members rejoice with it.
(1 Corinthians 12:12-26 MKJV)

Then how is it, brothers? When you come together, each one of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be for building up. If one speaks in a language, let it be by two, or at the most three, and in succession. And let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let him be silent in a church; and let him speak to himself and to God. And if there are two or three prophets, let them speak, and let the others judge. If a revelation is revealed to another sitting by, let the first be silent. For you may all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
(1 Corinthians 14:26-32 MKJV)

For indeed regarding the ministry to the saints, it is not necessary for me to write to you. For I know your eagerness, of which I boast to Macedonia on your behalf, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal has aroused the greater number. Yet I sent the brothers, lest our boasting (which is on your behalf) should not be in vain, that, as I said, you may be ready. I say this lest perhaps Macedonians should come with me and find you unprepared. We (not to say you) would then be put to shame in this confident boasting. Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brothers that they would go forward to you, and make up beforehand your blessing, it having been promised that this would be ready, thus as a matter of blessing, and not as of covetousness. But I say this, He who sows sparingly shall also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully shall also reap bountifully. Each one, as he purposes in his heart, let him give; not of grief, or of necessity, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that in everything, always having all self-sufficiency, you may abound to every good work; As it is written, "He scattered; he has given to the poor; his righteousness remains forever." Now He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for eating, may He supply and multiply your seed, and increase the fruits of your righteousness you being enriched in everything to all generosity, which works out thanksgiving to God through us. For the ministry of this service not only supplies the things lacking of the saints, but also multiplying through many thanksgivings to God, through the proof of this ministry they glorify God for your freely expressed submission to the gospel of Christ, and the generosity of the fellowship toward them and toward all, and in their prayer for you, who long after you, because of the exceeding grace of God on you. Thanks be to God for His unspeakable free gift.
(2 Corinthians 9:1-15 MKJV)

For it is not that others may have ease, but you trouble; but by equality in the present time; your abundance for their need, that their abundance also may be for your need; so that there may be equality; as it is written, "He gathering much, he had nothing left over; and he gathering little did not have less."
(2 Corinthians 8:13-15 MKJV)


For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many as were baptized into Christ, you put on Christ. There cannot be Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is no male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
(Galatians 3:26-28 MKJV)

Brothers, if a man is overtaken in a fault, you the spiritual ones restore such a one in the spirit of meekness, considering yourself, lest you also be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and so you will fulfill the Law of Christ. For if anyone thinks himself to be something, being nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one prove his own work, and then he alone will have a boast in himself, and not in another. For each one will bear his own load. But let him who is taught in the Word share with the one teaching in all good things. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a man sows, that he also will reap. For he sowing to his flesh will reap corruption from the flesh. But he sowing to the Spirit will reap life everlasting from the Spirit. But we should not lose heart in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not faint. So then as we have time, let us work good toward all, especially toward those of the household of faith.
(Galatians 6:1-10 MKJV)

I beseech you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God. For I say, through the grace given to me, to every one who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think. But set your mind to be right-minded, even as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith. For even as we have many members in one body, and all members do not have the same function, so we the many are one body in Christ, and each one members of one another. Then having gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, if prophecy, according to the proportion of faith; or ministry, in the ministry; or he who teaches, in the teaching; or he who exhorts, in the encouragement; or he who shares, in simplicity; or he who takes the lead, in diligence; or he who shows mercy, in cheerfulness. Let love be without hypocrisy, shrinking from evil, cleaving to good; in brotherly love to one another, loving fervently, having led one another in honor. As to diligence, not slothful, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope, patient in affliction, steadfastly continuing in prayer, distributing to the needs of the saints, pursuing hospitality. Bless those who persecute you; bless, and do not curse. Rejoice with rejoicing ones, and weep with weeping ones; minding the same thing toward one another, not minding high things, but yielding to the lowly. Do not be wise within yourselves.
(Romans 12:1-16 MKJV)

Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender feelings of mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, long-suffering, forbearing one another and forgiving yourselves, if anyone has a complaint against any. As Christ forgave you, so also you do. And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which you also are called in one body, and be thankful. Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
(Colossians 3:12-16 MKJV)

Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering (for He is faithful who promised), and let us consider one another to provoke to love and to good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
(Hebrews 10:23-25 MKJV)

Faithful is the Word: If anyone reaches out to overseership, he desires a good work. Then it behooves the overseer to be without reproach, husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, well-ordered, hospitable, apt at teaching, not a drunkard, not contentious, not greedy of ill gain, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous, ruling his own house well, having children in subjection with all honor. (For if a man does not know to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) not a novice, lest being puffed up he may fall into the condemnation of the Devil. But he must also have a good report from those on the outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the Devil. Likewise the deacons are to be reverent, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of ill gain, having the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. And let these also first be tested, then let them minister without reproach. Even so their wives are to be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things. Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and households well. For they having served well gain a good grade for themselves, and much boldness in the faith, those in Christ Jesus. I write these things to you, hoping to come to you shortly. But if I should delay, that you may know how you ought to behave in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among nations, believed on in the world, and received up into glory.
(1 Timothy 3:1-16 MKJV)



Therefore take heed to yourselves, and to all the flock in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the church of God which He has purchased with His own blood. For I know this, that after my departure grievous wolves shall enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also men shall arise from your own selves, speaking perverse things in order to draw disciples away after them. Therefore watch and remember that for the time of three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears. And now, brothers, I commend you to God, and to the Word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. I have coveted no man's silver or gold or apparel. Yea, you yourselves know that these hands have ministered to my needs, and to those who were with me. I have shown you all things, that working in this way we ought to help the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He Himself said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. And saying these things, kneeling, he prayed with them all.
(Acts 20:28-36 MKJV)

Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in Word and doctrine. For the Scripture says, "You shall not muzzle the ox treading out grain," and, "The laborer is worthy of his reward." Do not receive an accusation against an elder except before two or three witnesses. Those who sin, rebuke before all, so that the rest also may fear.
(1 Timothy 5:17-20 MKJV)

But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for possession, so that you might speak of the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; you who then were not a people, but now the people of God, those not pitied then, but now pitied. Dearly beloved, I exhort you as temporary residents and pilgrims to abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul, having your conduct honest among the nations, in that which they speak against you as evildoers, they may glorify God in a day of His visitation, seeing your good works.
(1 Peter 2:9-12 MKJV)

My brothers, do not have the faith of our Lord Christ, the Lord of glory, with respecter of faces. For if there comes a gold-fingered man in fancy clothing into your assembly, and if there also comes in a poor man in shabby clothing, and if you have respect to him who has the fancy clothing and say to him, You sit here in a good place, and say to the poor, You stand there, or sit here under my footstool; Did you not make a difference among yourselves and became judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He has promised to those who love Him? But you dishonored the poor one. Do not rich men oppress you and draw you before the judgment seats? Do they not blaspheme that worthy Name by which you are called? If you fulfill the royal Law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well. But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin and are convicted by the Law as transgressors.
(James 2:1-9 MKJV)

So, you can see who, what, and how we are to "interact" as part of a chosen and called out assembly. The question remains, how successful are we at doing this? What things might we need to do differently ( especially when we meet "together" ) to better fulfill our responsibilities to the other members of Body of Believers?

Are we providing an opportunity for each member to use their gifts? Are we having time to share what the Lord has put on our heart, or taught us through His Spirit? Is our worship from the heart and Spirit lead, or is it "pre-packaged" and "structured" to get us all in and out of our meeting in a pre-set time period.

Do we listen to just one teacher ( who preaches a prepared and closely "timed" speech )? Or is the other members of the Body given free opportunity to participate?

And how much time do we, or should be devoting to the "reading of the scriptures"?

Therefore laying aside all malice and all guile and hypocrisies and envyings, and all evil speakings, desire the sincere milk of the Word, as newborn babes, so that you may grow by it; if truly you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
(1 Peter 2:1-3 MKJV)

For faithful is the Word, for if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him. If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us. If we do not believe Him, yet He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. Put them in memory of these things, charging them before the Lord not to dispute about words to no profit, to the subverting of the hearers. Study earnestly to present yourself approved to God, a workman that does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
(2 Timothy 2:11-15 MKJV)

But the servant of the Lord must not strive, but to be gentle to all, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those who oppose, if perhaps God will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth, and that they awake out of the snare of the Devil, having been taken captive by him, so as to do the will of that one.
(2 Timothy 2:24-26 MKJV)

But continue in the things that you have learned and have been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from a babe you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly furnished to every good work.
(2 Timothy 3:14-17 MKJV)

Sunday, December 12, 2010

Looking and Waiting

 

But as for me, I will look unto Jehovah; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me. Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, Jehovah will be a light unto me.

(Micah 7:7-8 ASV)

Sunday, October 3, 2010

The Gathering and the Great Trumpet

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear in the heavens. And then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
(Matthew 24:29-31 MKJV)


And it shall be, in that day Jehovah shall thresh from the stream of the river Euphrates to the torrent of Egypt, and you shall be gathered one by one, O sons of Israel. And it shall be, in that day the great ram's horn shall be blown, and those perishing in the land of Assyria shall come, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt shall come and shall worship Jehovah in the holy mountain at Jerusalem.
(Isaiah 27:12-13 MKJV)


Behold, I speak a mystery to you; we shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed; in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.
(1 Corinthians 15:51-52 MKJV)

Saturday, October 2, 2010

Daniel 9:27

(Dan 9:27 KJV) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


(Barnes)
Dan 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant - literally, “he shall make strong” - The idea is that of giving strength, or stability; of making firm and sure. The Hebrew word here evidently refers to the “covenant” which God is said to establish with his people - so often referred to in the Scriptures as expressing the relation between Him and them, and hence used, in general, to denote the laws and institutions of the true religion - the laws which God has made for his church; his promises to be their protector, etc., and the institutions which grow out of that relation. The margin reads it, more in accordance with the Hebrew, “a,” meaning that he would confirm or establish “a covenant” with the many. According to this, it is not necessary to suppose that it was any existing covenant that it referred to, but that he would ratify what was understood by the word “covenant;” that is, that he would lead many to enter into a true and real covenant with God. This would be fulfilled if he should perform such a work as would bring the “many” into a relation to God corresponding to what was sustained to him by his ancient people; that is, bring them to be his true friends and worshippers.
The meaning of the expression here cannot be mistaken, that during the time specified, “he” (whoever may be referred to) would, for “one week” - pursue such a course as would tend to establish the true religion; to render it more stable and firm; to give it higher sanctions in the approbation of the “many,” and to bring it to bear more decidedly and powerfully on the heart. Whether this would be by some law enacted in its favor; or by protection extended over the nation; or by present example; or by instruction; or by some work of a new kind, and new influences which he would set forth, is not mentioned, and beforehand perhaps it could not have been well anticipated in what way this would be. There has been a difference of opinion, however, as to the proper nominative to the verb “confirm” - whether it is the Messiah, or the foreign prince, or the “one week.” Hengstenberg prefers the latter, and renders it, “And one week shall confirm the covenant; with many.”
So also Lengerke renders it. Bertholdt renders it “he,” that is, “he shall unite himself firmly with many for one week” - or, a period of seven years, ein Jahrsiebend lang. It seems to me that it is an unnatural construction to make the word “week” the nominative to the verb, and that the more obvious interpretation is to refer it to some person to whom the whole subject relates. It is not usual to represent time as an agent in accomplishing a work. In poetic and metaphorical language, indeed, we personate time as cutting down men, as a destroyer, &e., but this usage would not justify the expression that “time would confirm a covenant with many.” That is, evidently, the work of conscious, intelligent agent; and it is most natural, therefore, to understand this as of one of the two agents who are spoken of in the passage. These two agents are the “Messiah,” and the “prince that should come.”
But it is not reasonable to suppose that the latter is referred to, because it is said Dan_9:26 that the effect and the purpose of his coming would be to “destroy the city and the sanctuary.” He was to come “with a flood,” and the effect of his coming would be only desolation. The more correct interpretation, therefore, is to refer it to the Messiah, who is the principal subject of the prophecy; and the work which, according to this, he was to perform was, during that “one week,” to exert such an influence as would tend to establish a covenant between the people and God. The effect of his work during that one week would be to secure their adhesion to the “true religion;” to confirm to them the Divine promises, and to establish the principles of that religion which would lead them to God. Nothing is said of the mode by which that would be done; and anything, therefore, which would secure this would be a fulfillment of the prophecy. As a matter of fact, if it refers to the Lord Jesus, this was done by his personal instructions, his example, his sufferings and death, and the arrangements which he made to secure the proper effect of his work on the minds of the people - all designed to procure for them the friendship and favor of God, and to unite them to him in the bonds of an enduring covenant.
With many - Or, for many; or, unto many. He would perform a work which would pertain to many, or which would bear on many, leading them to God. There is nothing in the word here which would indicate who they were, whether his own immediate followers, or those who already were in the covenant. The simple idea is, that this would pertain to “many” persons, and it would be fulfilled if the effect of his work were to confirm “many” who were already in the covenant, or if he should bring “many” others into a covenant relation with God. Nothing could be determined from the meaning of the word used here as to which of these things was designed, and consequently a fair fulfillment would be found if either of them occurred. If it refers to the Messiah, it would be fulfilled if in fact the effect of his coming should be either by statute or by instructions to confirm and establish those who already sustained this relation to God, or if he gathered other followers, and confirmed them in their allegiance to God.
For one week - The fair interpretation of this, according to the principles adopted throughout this exposition, is, that this includes the space of seven years. See the notes at Dan_9:24. This is the one week that makes up the seventy - seven of them, or forty-nine years, embracing the period from the command to rebuild the city and temple to its completion under Nehemiah; sixty-two, or four hundred and thirty-four years, to the public appearing of the Messiah, and this one week to complete the whole seventy, or four hundred and ninety years “to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness,” etc., Dan_9:24. It is essential, therefore, to find something done, occupying these seven years, that would go to “confirm the covenant” in the sense above explained. In the consideration of this, the attention is arrested by the announcement of an important event which was to occur “in the midst of the week,” to wit, in causing the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, showing that there was to be an important change occurring during the “week,” or that while he would be, in fact, confirming the covenant through the week in some proper sense, the sacrifice and oblation would cease, and therefore the confirming of the many in the covenant must depend on something else than the continuation of the sacrifice and oblation. In regard to this language, as in respect to all the rest of the prophecy, there are, in fact, just two questions: one is, what is fairly to be understood by the words, or what is the proper interpretation, independent of anything in the result; the other is, whether anything occurred in what is regarded as the fulfillment which corresponds with the language so interpreted.

And in the midst of the week - The word here rendered “in the midst” - means, properly, half, the half part, Exo_24:6; Num_12:12; then the middle, or the midst, Jdg_16:3. The natural and obvious interpretation is what is expressed in our translation, and that will convey the essential idea in the original. It refers to something which was to occur at the middle portion of this time, or when half of this period was elapsed, or to something which it would require half of the “one week,” or seven years, to accomplish. The meaning of the passage is fully met by the supposition that it refers to the Lord Jesus and his work, and that the exact thing that was intended by the prophecy was his death, or his being “cut off,” and thus causing the sacrifice and oblation to cease.
Whatever difficulties there may be about the “precise” time of our Lord’s ministry, and whether he celebrated three passovers or four after he entered on his public work, it is agreed on all hands that it lasted about three years and a half - the time referred to here. On the supposition that this pertains to the death of the Lord Jesus, and that it was the design of the prophecy here to refer to the effects of that death, this is the very language which would have been used. If the period of “a week” were for any purpose mentioned, then it would be indispensable to suppose that there would be an allusion to the important event - in fact, the great event which was to occur in the middle of that period, when the ends of the types and ceremonies of the Hebrew people would be accomplished, and a sacrifice made for the sins of the whole world.
He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease - The word “he,” in this place, refers to the Messiah, if the interpretation of the former part of the verse is correct, for there can be no doubt that it is the same person who is mentioned in the phrase “he shall confirm the covenant with many.” The words “sacrifice” and “oblation” refer to the offerings made in the temple. The former word more properly denotes “bloody” offerings; the latter “offerings” of any kind - whether of flour, fruits, grain, etc. The word rendered “cease”
- means, properly, to rest (from the word Sabbath), and then in Hiphil, to cause to rest, or to cause to cease. It conveys the idea of “putting an end to” - as, for example, “war,” Psa_46:9; “contention,” Pro_18:18; “exultation,” Isa_16:10. - Gesenius. The literal signification here would be met by the supposition that an end would be made of these sacrifices, and this would occur either by their being made wholly to cease to be offered at that time, or by the fact that the object of their appointment was accomplished, and that henceforward they would be useless and would die away.
As a matter of fact, so far as the Divine intention in the appointment of these sacrifices and offerings was concerned, they “ceased” at the death of Christ - in the middle of the “week.” Then the great sacrifice which they had adumbrated was offered. Then they ceased to have any significancy, no reason existing for their longer continuance. Then, as they never had had any efficacy in themselves, they ceased also to have any propriety as types - for the thing which they had prefigured had been accomplished. Then, too, began a series of events and influences which led to their abolition, for soon they were interrupted by the Romans, and the temple and the altars were swept away to be rebuilt no more. The death of Christ was, in fact, the thing which made them to cease, and the fact that the great atonement has been made, and that there is now no further need of those offerings, is the only philosophical reason which can be given why the Jews have never been able again to rebuild the temple, and why for eighteen hundred years they have found no place where they could again offer a bloody sacrifice. The “sacrifice and the oblation” were made, as the result of the coming of the Messiah, to “cease” for ever, and no power of man will be able to restore them again in Jerusalem. Compare Gibbon’s account of the attempt of Julian to rebuild the temple at Jerusalem: Dec. and Fall, ii. 35-37.
And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate - The marginal reading here is very different, showing clearly the perplexity of the translators: “Upon the battlements shall be the idols of the desolator.” There is great variety, also, in the ancient versions in rendering this passage. The Latin Vulgate is, “And there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation.” The Greek, “And upon the temple shall be an abomination of desolations.” The Syriac. “And upon the extremities of the abomination shall rest desolation.” The Arabic, “And over the sanctuary shall there be the abomination of ruin.” Luther renders it, “And upon the wings shall stand the abomination of desolation.” Lengerke and Hengstenberg render it, “And upon the summit of abomination comes the destroyer.” Prof. Stuart, “And the water shall be over a winged fowl of abominations.” These different translations show that there is great obscurity in the original, and perhaps exclude the hope of being able entirely to free the passage from all difficulties. An examination of the words, however, may perhaps enable us to form a judgment of its meaning. The “literal” and “obvious” sense of the original, as I understand it, is, “And upon the wing of the abominations one causing desolation” - The word rendered “overspreading” - means, properly, a “wing;” so called as “covering,” or because it “covers” - from - to cover, to hide. Then it denotes anything having a resemblance to a wing, as an extremity, a corner, as
(a) of a garment, the skirt, or flap, 1Sa_24:4 (5), 11 (12); Num_15:38, and hence, as the outer garment was used by the Orientals to wrap themselves in at night, the word is used for the extremity or border of a bed-covering, Deu_22:30 Deu_23:1; Rth_3:9.
(b) It is applied to land, or to the earth - as the earth is compared with a garment spread out, Isa_24:16; Job_37:3; Job_38:13.

The use of the word “wing” here would lead to the supposition that what is said would pertain to something in connection with the temple having a resemblance to the wings of a bird, and the word “upon” - would lead us to suppose that what was to occur would be somehow upon that. The word rendered “abominations” - means “abominable” things, things to be held in detestation, as things unclean, filthy garments, etc., and then idols, as things that are to be held in abhorrence. The word - is rendered abomination in Deu_29:17; 1Ki_11:5, 1Ki_11:7; 2Ki_23:13, 2Ki_23:24; Isa_66:3; Jer_4:1; Jer_7:30; Jer_13:27; Jer_32:34; Eze_5:11; Eze_7:20; Eze_20:7-8, Eze_20:30; Dan_9:27; Dan_11:31; Dan_12:11; Hos_9:10; Zec_9:7; abominable idols in 2Ch_15:8 (in the margin abominations); “detestable” in Jer_16:18; Eze_11:18, Eze_11:21; Eze_37:23; and “abominable filth” in Nah_3:6. It does not occur elsewhere.
In most of these places it is applied to “idols,” and the current usage would lead us so to apply it, if there were nothing in the connection to demand a different interpretation. It might refer to anything that was held in abomination, or that was detestable and offensive. The word is one that might be used of an idol god, or of anything that would pollute or defile, or that was from any cause offensive. It is not used in the Old Testament with reference to a “banner or military standard,” but there can be no doubt that it might be so applied as denoting the standard of a foe - of a pagan - planted on any part of the temple - a thing which would be particularly detestable and abominable in the sight of the Jews. The word rendered “he shall make IT desolate” - is “he making desolate;” that is, “a desolator.” It is a Poel participle from - to be astonished, to be laid waste; and then, in an active sense, to lay waste, to make desolate. - Gesenius. The same word, and the same phrase, occur in Dan_11:31 : “And they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate,” or, as it is in the margin, “astonisheth.”
There, also, the expression is used in connection with “taking away the daily sacrifices.” The word would be more properly rendered in this place “desolator,” referring to some one who would produce desolation. There is great abruptness in the entire expression, and it is evident that it was not the intention to give so clear a prediction in this that it could be fully understood beforehand. The other portions of the prophecy respecting the building of the city, and the coming of the Messiah, and the work that he would accomplish, are much more clear, and their meaning could have been made out with much more certainty. But, in reference to this, it would seem, perhaps, that all that was designed was to throw out suggestions - fragments of thought, that would rather hint at the subject than give any continuous idea. Perhaps a much more “abrupt” method of translation than what attempts to express it in a continuous grammatical construction capable of being parsed easily, would better express the state of the mind of the speaker, and the language which he uses, than the ordinary versions.
The Masoretic pointing, also, may be disregarded, and then the real idea would be better expressed by some such translation as the following: “He shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease. And - upon the wing - the porch of the temple - abominations! And a desolator!” That is, after the ceasing of the sacrifice and the oblation, the mind is fixed upon the temple where they had been offered. The first thing that arrests the eye is some portion of the temple, here denoted by the word “wing.” The next is something abominable or detestable - an object to be hated and loathed in the very temple itself. The next is a desolator - one who had come to carry desolation to that very temple. Whether the “abomination” is connected with the “desolator” or not is not intimated by the language. It might or might not be. The angel uses language as these objects strike the eye, and he expresses himself in this abrupt manner as the eye rests on one or the other. The question then arises, What does this mean? Or what is to be regarded as the proper fulfillment? The reasons for this opinion are, summarily, the following:
(a) The “place or order” in which the passage stands in the prophecy. It is “after” the coming of the Messiah; “after” the proper cessation of the sacrifice and oblation, and at the close of the whole series of events - the termination of the whole design about rebuilding the city and the temple.
(b) The “language” is such as would properly represent that. Nothing could be more appropriate, in the common estimation of the Jews, than to speak of such an object as a Roman military standard planted in any part of the temple, as an “abomination,;” and no word would better denote the character of the Roman conqueror than the word “desolator” - for the effect of his coming, was to lay the whole city and temple in ruins.
(c) The language of the Saviour in his reference to this would seem to demand such an interpretation, Mat_24:15 : “When ye, therefore, shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place,” etc. There can be no reasonable doubt. that the Saviour refers to this passage in Daniel (see the notes at Mat_24:15), or that events occurred in the attack on Jerusalem and the temple that would fully correspond with the language used here. Josephus, for instance, says, that when the city was taken, the Romans brought their ensigns into the temple, and placed them over the eastern gate, and sacrificed to them there. “And now the Romans,” says he, “upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the holy house itself, and all the buildings round about it, brought their ensigns into the temple, and set them over against its eastern gate; and there they did offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus “Imperator” with the greatest acclamations of joy.” - “Jewish Wars,” b. vi. ch. vi. Section 1. This fact fully accords with the meaning of the language as above explained, and the reference to it was demanded in order that the purpose of the prophecy should be complete. Its proper termination is the destruction of the city and temple - as its beginning is the order to rebuild them.
Even until the consummation - Until the completion - That is, the series of events in the prophecy shall in fact reach to the completion of everything pertaining to the city and temple. The whole purpose in regard to that shall be completed. The design for which it is robe rebuilt shall be consummated; the sacrifices to be offered there shall be finished, and they shall be no longer efficacious or proper; the whole civil and religious polity connected with the city and temple shall pass away.
And that determined - There seems to be an allusion in the word here to its former use, as denoting that this is the fulfillment of the determination in regard to the city and temple. The idea is, that what was determined, or decided on, to wit, with reference to the closing scenes of the city and temple, would be accomplished.
Shall be poured - The word used here means to pour, to pour out, to overflow - as rain, water, curses, anger, etc. It may be properly applied to calamity or desolation, as these things may be represented as “poured down” upon a people, in the manner of a storm. Compare 2Sa_21:10; Exo_9:33; Psa_11:6; Eze_38:22; 2Ch_34:21; 2Ch_12:7; Jer_7:20; Jer_42:18; Jer_44:6.
Upon the desolate - Margin, desolator. The Hebrew word is the same, though in another form which is used in the previous part of the verse, and rendered “he shall make it desolate,” but which is proposed above to be rendered “desolator.” The verb is an intransitive verb, and means, in “Kal,” the form used here, to be astonished or amazed; then “to be laid waste, to be made desolate” (Gesenius); and the meaning in this place, therefore, is that which is desolate or laid waste - the wasted, the perishing, the solitary. The reference is to Jerusalem viewed as desolate or reduced to ruins. The angel perhaps contemplates it, as he is speaking, in ruins or as desolate, and he sees this also as the termination of the entire series of predictions, and, in view of the whole, speaks of Jerusalem appropriately as “the desolate.”
Though it would be rebuilt, yet it would be again reduced to desolation, for the purpose of the rebuilding - the coming of the Messiah - would be accomplished. As the prophecy finds Jerusalem a scene of ruins, so it leaves it, and the last word in the prophecy, therefore, is appropriately the word “desolate.” The intermediate state indeed between the condition of the city as seen at first and at the close is glorious - for it embraces the whole work of the Messiah; but the beginning is a scene of ruins, and so is the close. The sum of the whole in the latter part of the verse may be expressed in a free paraphrase: “He, the Messiah, shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease,” by having fulfilled in his own dcath the design of the ancient offerings, thus rendering them now useless, and upon the outspreading - upon the temple regarded as spread out, or some wing or portico, there are seen abominable things - idolatrous ensigns, and the worship of foreigners. A desolator is there, also, come to spread destruction - a foreign army or leader. And this shall continue even to the end of the whole matter - the end of the events contemplated by the prophecy - the end of the city and the temple. And what is determined on - the destruction decreed - shall be poured out like a tempest on the city doomed to desolation - desolate as surveyed at the beginning of the prophecy - desolate at the close, and therefore appropriately called “the desolate.”