Sunday, October 22, 2023

Israel in the End Times - Dispensationalism - Is the Gathering in Matthew 24 different than the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4

How many Dispensations are there?
And is the Rapture mentioned in the book of Matthew?

I've looked at the books titled "Dispensationalism" 
by both Lewis Sperry Chafer 
and a similar book by the same name,
by Charles C. Ryrie, updated 1995.
Neither convinced me that the 7 dispensations view 
is the way to "interpret" Daniel 9:24-27, 
or the Book of Matthew.
Or that God has "suspended" His dealings with the Jews 
until the Great Tribulation period.

And I have also reviewed about 1/2 dozen books that speak 
against the Dispensation theory.
Traditionally there are 7 dispensations 
that have been most widely promoted since 1917 
thanks in large part to the Scofield Reference Bible.

And I've been PRAYING Hard about this issue every day... 
praying for wisdom and understanding.
And expecting God to teach me.

I thought this would be easier than it has turned out to be.
It's a lot like the theory of evolution.
If you look at the layers of rocks, 
you can "see" millions of years,
unless of course you know about the world wide FLOOD,
which actually explains the LAYERS much better 
( plus it's in the Bible ).



Okay, getting to the subject at hand,
We see a "gathering" in Matthew 24 
and a judgement dividing of the "nations" 
in Matthew 25.

If the "gathering" of the Elect in Matthew 24:31
is all the "believers",
And if it truly is the same gathering 
or being caught up 
as referenced by Paul 
in 
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 

2 Thessalonians 2:1-14, 

1 Corinthians 15:50-57, 

1 Peter 1:7 and 1:13,

THEN the Question asked by some is,

Who is left for the judgement of the nations 
( in Matthew 25 )?

My first thought is,
Does not "all nations" include the scattered remnant of the "Jews", 
as they have been dispersed 
far and wide over the centuries?
Also,
The gathering of the Elect by the Angels 
does not mean they go to heaven 
( as some have mistakenly thought ).
Jesus is here on earth,
and that would be the place for all believers 
( natural or glorified ) with Him.
Just like is says in 
1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verses 16 and 17

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, 
with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, 
and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
17 Then we who are alive and remain 
will be caught up together with them in the clouds
to meet the Lord in the air, 
and so 
we shall always be with the Lord. 

And this rising of the dead is referenced in 
Revelation 20:4-6 
as the first resurrection,
and it occurs at the post tribulation return of Jesus Christ,
We read:

"Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, 
and judgment was given to them. 
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded 
because of their testimony of Jesus 
and because of the word of God, 
and those who had not worshiped the beast 
or his image, 
and had not received the mark 
on their forehead and on their hand; 
and they came to life 
and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 
The rest of the dead did not come to life 
until the thousand years were completed. 
This is the first resurrection. 
Blessed and holy is the one 
who has a part in the first resurrection; 
over these the second death has no power, 
but they will be priests of God and of Christ 
and 
will reign with Him for a thousand years."


Again referencing the judgement in Matthew chapter 25
I've been ASKED,
How does this "tie into" the judgement of the "House of Israel" 
prophesied in Ezekiel 20:33-44?

After giving it a good read and prayerful thought,
I've concluded it fits Perfectly,
... upon the glorious return of Christ, those not killed by the bowls of wrath 
or at the battle of Armageddon, 
will be "mourning" ( see: Matt. 24:30 and Rev. 1:7 ), 
or "loathe" themselves ( Ezek. 20:43 ).

Those still "alive" and not "raptured" as part of the Church, 
will be divided into "Sheep" and "Goats".
Many will "realize" that Jesus ( the LORD God ) 
has come to earth to rule & reign.
Those that have believed at this point ( are "righteous" ), 
and will ENTER as living natural humans into the Kingdom.

Those who remain "rebellious" ( unbelieving ) will be separated 
and "these will go away into eternal punishment, 
but the righteous in eternal life." ( Matthew 25:46 )
This matches the Lord's words as 
recorded in Ezekiel 20:33-44. 

The remaining "House of Israel" ..
those who are physically Jews by birth,
will also be divided 
( pass under the rod, Ezekiel 20:37 ).
Some will enter the Kingdom, and others will not.
So, it's kind of a parallel passage 
with the gathering and judgement of the "nations" 
as we read in Matthew 25: 31-46.
 
In Matthew 25:31-36, it says all the NATIONS 
( which would include scattered Jews 
and the Gentile from ALL Nations ) 
will be gathered at His coming.
It does not specify ONLY Jews 
or those of non-Jewish heritage.

I believe "dispensational" theory affects how one looks at this 
and other passages in Matthew.
And looking at the Bible as a whole,
I don't see any scripture that would require 
the doctrine of two returns of Christ 
( one secret rapture, 
and one glorious  visible return ).
I see one return - 
one revealing - 
one gathering referenced throughout the New Testament.

And the concept 
that God stopped dealing with the Jews 
( non-believing descendants of Israel ) 
when the church age began
( when the Holy Spirit was given to believers 
on the Day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 ),
is just a theory 
without any clear scripture supporting it.

Non-dispensationalist have pointed out that 
God dealt with Israel in 70 A.D. 
when He allowed the Romans to destroy the temple.
Or that God has been dealing with Israel the past 100 years 
to gather and restore them as a Nation.
He has not forgotten about them for a second.
He is perfectly able to grow His Church, 
and still be working out His eternal plans for the nation of Israel.

I'm still waiting for someone to show me a clear passage of scripture 
that shows that God has 
"suspended" His dealings with Israel,
and won't start working with them again 
until the 7 year Tribulation Period.

All the references I've found are 
to an interpretation 
of the 70th week of Daniel's 490 years prophecy 
found in Daniel chapter 9 and verses 24 - 27.
The passage itself does not say 
what many try to make it out to say.
And I've read that those that know Hebrew, 
find verse 27 very difficult to clearly translate and understand.

The complex details will have to wait for another Post.


Another passage presented by some to support this 
theory of God "setting aside" Israel as a people,
is Romans 11:1-16.
I would just like to point out that verses 1 and 2 
do NOT sound that way to me,

Paul writes:
Romans 11:1-2
I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? 
May it never be! 
For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, 
of the tribe of Benjamin. 
God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew.

And later in the same chapter, 
Paul explains how the Gentile believers are now 
ADDED to God's Olive Tree.
The one true "tree" did not get Replaced.
The Church ( believers after Pentecost ) 
did not - 
do not 
"replace" Israel.
They have been joined into the one and same tree by God.

We read further
Romans 11:17-18
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, 
and you, being a wild olive, 
were grafted in among them 
and became partaker with them 
of the rich root of the olive tree, 
18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; 
but if you are arrogant, 
remember that it is not you who supports the root, 
but the root supports you.

Galatians 3:26-29 further illustrates this Oneness of believers 
( without regard to nationality ),

"For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ 
have clothed yourselves with Christ. 
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek
there is neither slave nor free man, 
there is neither male nor female; 
for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 
29 And if you belong to Christ, 
then you are Abraham's descendants, 
heirs according to promise."

* I'll write some more on this in the future,
as the Dispensational theory is what has been commonly taught 
to support a pre-tribulation ( secret ) rapture.
And I know that the scriptures are clear that 
this is not what is going to happen,
and believers need to be warned.

I know it is hard to unravel the truth 
when you have heard the Bible interpreted one way for many years,
and by many different speakers.
Unfortunately, most have just been repeating 
the same version they were taught,
without taking the time 
to really search the scriptures themselves.

In closing, 
I would like to encourage you with this passage,
from 2 Thessalonians chapter 5, verses 8 through 11,

"But since we are of the day
let us be sober, 
having put on the breastplate of faith and love, 
and as a helmet, 
the hope of salvation. 
For God has not destined us for wrath, 
but for obtaining salvation 
through our Lord Jesus Christ, 
10 who died for us, 
so that whether we are awake or asleep, 
we will live together with Him. 
11 Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, 
just as you also are doing."

AMEN!

--
Saved by Grace,
Andrew Cross

"Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 
And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 
not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, 
but exhorting one another, 
and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
Hebrews 10:23-25


Saturday, October 21, 2023

Rapture occurs when Christ appears again

Hebrews 9:28 ESV 

So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, 

will appear a second time, not to deal with sin 

but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Acts 1:10-11 ESV 

And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, 

behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 

and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? 

This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, 

will come in the same way 

as you saw him go into heaven."

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 ESV 

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, 

with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. 

And the dead in Christ will rise first. 

Then we who are alive, who are left, 

will be caught up together with them 

in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, 

and so we will always be with the Lord.


Revelation 1:7 ESV 

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, 

and every eye will see him

even those who pierced him, 

and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. 

Even so. Amen.

--
Saved by Grace,
Andrew Cross

"Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 
And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 
not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, 
but exhorting one another, 
and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
Hebrews 10:23-25


Tuesday, October 17, 2023

Is the First Resurrection the same time as the Rapture of the Church at the End of the Great Tribulation Period?

When is the First Resurrection?
Is it the same as the Rapture?
And who is included?

*

Here are a few Bible verses I'd like you to consider 
that speak about the resurrection of believers 
and the return of Christ.
The timing of the rapture 
looks to occur at this first resurrection 
mentioned in Revelation chapter 20.

When I read these scriptures, 
I can see a direct relationship between 
the believers who have died 
being resurrected 
and the believers who are alive 
being transformed 
when Christ Returns.

Both should be a part of this first resurrection.

Let's start with Jesus speaking in 
John chapter 6 verses 39 and 40

This is the will of Him who sent Me, 
that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, 
but raise it up on the last day.

For this is the will of My Father,
that everyone who beholds the Son 
and believes in Him will have eternal life, 
and 
I Myself will raise him up on the last day."

Now let's take a look at
Revelation chapter 20 verses 4 through 6

Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, 
and judgment was given to them.
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded 
because of their testimony of Jesus 
and because of the word of God, 
and those who had not worshiped the beast 
or his image, 
and had not received the mark on their forehead 
and on their hand; 
and they came to life 
and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 
The rest of the dead did not come to life 
until the thousand years were completed. 
This is the first resurrection. 
Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection;
 over these the second death has no power
but they will be priests of God and of Christ 
and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Continuing with 
I Corinthians 15:20 and 23

20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, 
the first fruits of those who are asleep.
23 But each in his own order: 
Christ the first fruits, 
after that those who are Christ's 
at His coming,

When?
AT HIS COMING

Another good passage in this same chapter is 
1 Corinthians 15:50-57; 
But I only will read verse 52 because it makes the point perfectly,

 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; 
for the trumpet will sound, 
and the dead will be raised imperishable, 
and we will be changed. 

When?
At the Last Trumpet,
not the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

And there is more to consider:

1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verses14 through17;

 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, 
even so God will bring with Him 
those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, 
that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, 
will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, 
with the voice of the archangel 
and with the trumpet of God, 
and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
17 Then we who are alive and remain 
will be caught up together with them in the clouds 
to meet the Lord in the air
and so we shall always be with the Lord. 

* Note: 
Since the living will not precede the dead in the resurrection, 
there is no possible way that the living could have been raptured
at any time prior to Christ's Second Coming.
Also, note:
This does say anything about going up to heaven, 
as Jesus returns to the mount of Olives near Jerusalem,
and sets up His kingdom here on earth for 1,000 years.
We are gathered to MEET Him upon His return to earth.
This meeting happens in the air 
and from this point on,
we "shall always be with the Lord", 
as the passage clearly states.


Another passage that identifies the Timing of events is found in 

2 Thessalonians chapter 1 verses 7 and 8;

 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well 
when the Lord Jesus will be revealed FROM heaven 
with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 
dealing out retribution 
to those who do not know God 
and to those who do not obey the gospel 
of our Lord Jesus. 

* No "secret" Rapture here....

And to make it even more clear,
Please consider

2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 1 through 3;

Now we request you, brethren, 
with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ 
and our gathering together to Him, 
that you not be quickly shaken from your composure 
or be disturbed either by a spirit 
or a message 
or a letter as if from us, 
to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 
Let no one in any way deceive you, 
for it will not come 
unless the apostasy comes first, 
AND
the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

And I will close with

Revelation chapter 1 verse 7; 

 Behold, He is coming with the clouds
and every eye will see Him
even those who pierced Him; 
and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. 
So it is to be. 
Amen.


Saved by Grace,
Andrew Cross

"Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 
And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 
not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, 
but exhorting one another, 
and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
Hebrews 10:23-25